Category Archives: Counseling Sessions

CS 10/26/10

Left for the scheduled counseling session this morning, not knowing if I would see JD there or not.  Remember, he left Monday evening – bags packed – hasn’t been home.  So……will he be there?  This was the question running through my mind.

In a couple posts ago, I wrote about his email, requesting I cancel the meeting.  I replied: you cancel!  Not knowing if this was done – I went.  If he wasn’t there, a good time to talk on an individual basis and get some direction.  That I did!!

The meeting started by Dr. Hanson asking what happened.  I laid out ALL the details since our last meeting, two weeks ago.  I even spelled out the nasty emails I forwarded to JD and my actions.  He didn’t think it was out of line at all.  I mentioned the attempts to have date nights, and I declined due to other responsibilities.  But also told him about JD informing me last Wed. that he was expecting to have a “date” night after he returned from his meeting (with the Pastor and group).  This gave me 4 hours to prepare for the evening and to be ready for “date” night.  Which means sex.

Dr. H’s first response was, “you have been so graceful, have carried yourself in a manner that is surprising, given what has taken place just in the time we have been meeting.  You are a very intelligent and strong woman.  A person who has had to deal with quite a lot, keeps her head up high, carries out everyday responsibilities, even through these times.  Even if JD thinks I’m off base regarding sex, it’s not everything.  It’s what happens in a marriage AFTER you have dealt with all the other things.  It’s what you build up to when you marriage is not strong.  It’s not what just happens because you’re married.”  I have to say, this was really nice to hear from someone.  I don’t think because he’s our counselor that he’s obligated to say these things.

He further went on to say, “You have given JD so many chances and opportunities, have let him know just how you feel, and have both agreed that alcohol is a serious problem in your marriage and his life.  He (JD) has admitted this on many occasions.  You have been so forgiving, understanding and encouraging – I see this in the meetings.  JD has made many promises to you, and has not kept these promises.  At this point, his words do mean anything.  It will take action.  And you will know when this is concrete.”

I asked, “At what point do I not go any further?”

Dr. H: “Please don’t  think that I am suggesting divorce.  Of course I want the best for you.  And I would like to see you work things out and stay in your marriage, that’s what our goal has been.  But I have seen so many excuses made by JD, broken promises, and not lasting action that will gain any amount of trust.”

Me: “JD will say he’s not been drinking for weeks now, what more action do you want, what more do you expect of me?”

Dr. H: “He obviously can’t do it on his own, he’s even admitted this himself.  He’s said he’s going to seek professional help.  Has not.  You’ve been extremely understanding and forgiving.  But nothing seems to change, change from the heart, that is.   I’m ever more convinced this is alcoholism.  And at this point you have to protect yourself from further emotional and mental abuse.  You have endured years of this, even if he doesn’t see it that way.  I can see it and recognize it.  And again, you have been so graceful and gone further than I know most would.  Your questions should be, what do I need to do to protect myself and look forward to the future.  Not so much a question of, should I stay or should I leave.  Obviously that question might be attached to the first.  No one should stay in an abusive marriage, and I regret to tell you that you are in one.  No, you don’t have physical marks.  But many times it’s much harder when there isn’t physical abuse.  And you have endured mental and emotional abuse.”

Me:  “What happens when he comes to me, like he’s done in the past, and says sorry.  Also says he’ll get help, he’ll do better, etc.  What then?  I don’t trust him.  He keeps packing his bags and leaving.  Help seems to only happen for a short time and then we’re back in the downward spiral.  He always puts this back on me.  Oh, how I’m in such a terrible marriage.  How I’ve been so mistreated.  Anyone would kill for the life we have.  Many would kill for a husband like him.  A good provider, a beautiful house we live in, luxuries we are afforded, the help I receive around the house.  No other husband that he knows does all that he does.  And how I’m so ungrateful and do not recognize what a great life and husband I have.  I should be so unfortunate.”

This meeting lasted an hour.  I felt very confident that my actions were not over-reacting and I had a right to respond in the way I did. 

Dr. H:  “This is an affair, not with a woman, but with alcohol and the feelings associated with it.  Yes, we have defined it as being “The Beast”, but JD keeps opening the door to let “The Beast” in.  And he has to take responsibility for it.  And every time he allows “The Beast” to come back in, he’s allowing it to slap you in the face.  It’s like allowing a complete stranger in your home to come and punch you right in the face.  Yes, he’s choosing this over you.  And continues to.  Not drinking for a long period of time does not excuse not owning up to his words and action and protecting you.”

But what was the most profound analogy in the meeting came from a comparison in the movie “Fireproof”.  And it hit me right between the eyes.  He explained that Caleb (Kirk Cameron) started the Love Dare, and did ALL the right things to prove to his wife that he wanted their marriage to work.  Day after day, even after the time period had ended, he continued to fight for her.  But she didn’t respond.  She didn’t care.  Why?  Because she didn’t trust him.  Been there-done that, nothing was really different from times before.  She noticed he was doing different things.  She noticed he removed major obstacles in their marriage.  Yet she still wasn’t convinced.  He even made the statement to his father, how can he be expected to love someone who refuses to give him a fair chance, John (his father) tells his son that this is precisely the same love that God shows for humankind. Now, with a little help from above, the man who makes headlines for saving lives will fight to be a hero to the one person who matters most — his wife.

It is at this time that Caleb changes his disposition.  He changes his focus.  His wife is sick in bed, he cares for her, even when she doesn’t want him to.  But the turning point is: when he comes to her bedside, takes responsibility for the harm he has caused, confess, and asks her forgiveness.  Bringing tears to his eyes.  You know at this point that his “heart” has changed.  He no longer is prideful and humbles himself to his wife.  She now can trust him and extend complete forgiveness.

I see the actions JD has taken.  I see the struggles he faces and I’ve continued to be forgiving.  He has done many wonderful things since counseling.  But here’s the missing link: his heart is still full of pride.  Thinking he can do things on his own.  I have asked, over and over again, to bring God to the center of our marriage.  It doesn’t happen.  And probably because JD doesn’t have the room for God when he’s filled with so much pride.  This is evident when he tells me that, “no one will tell him what to do, he’ll do things his own way – his way”.  If this isn’t pride, then I don’t know what is.  And fighting pride is futile.

Dr. H ended with a very positive statement.  He said, “You should be honored for what you do with your family, how you have handled this situation with your husband.  But instead you have to carry much emotional baggage.  Your husband should honor and respect you for being such a strong woman.  I’m sorry you have to go through this.”


CS 9/21/10

Counseling session today went okay!?

We can’t seem to get past resentments, anger, and issues of the past.

Actually the meat of the conversation began the evening before.  Monday evening came around and since we had cancelled the previous weeks session because we hadn’t done any of the things Dr. Hanson wanted us to do.  There seemed to be no point in going, since we had nothing new to cover.  And since we hadn’t made the time to do the things we needed to be doing.  Some of the reasons were valid, and some not. 

So another week passed, and Monday before the next meeting seemed to be pressing on us.  I said we at least need to sit down and talk about how we are going to plan time together.

This didn’t go so well!  Actually there was a point where it looked as if it could erupt into a major argument.  And this carried over to the session.  Which didn’t seem to be a bad option since we couldn’t resolve some of the issues on our own.

The issues at hand:

  1. JD can’t get past the felling that I don’t find him physically attractive anymore and I don’t want him in a sexual way (the way I use to).
  2. I can’t get past trust issues that have led to me becoming distant towards him.  Not wanting anything to do with him due to how his past drinking has hurt me, made me not trust him and be put on guard all the time.  This doesn’t create a very loving and affectionate marriage.
  3. JD thinks that I should be able to be intimate almost on the drop of a dime.  (I know….a little exaggeration!)  But he can’t understand that when the kids don’t get to sleep until 11:30pm – and that’s ALL kids! – at that point I’m exhausted!  The kids may be in bed by 9pm – but are still awake at the late hours.  And the youngest (22 mos.) has his room right next to ours.  Quite frankly – the child chatter and calling out when he hears something is just not doing anything for me to get in the mood!!  And the fact that our older children seem to have a magnet to mom whenever I am going to do anything with JD.  Being in the mood just isn’t happening.
  4. His tenderness that I fell in love with.   And is not there anymore.  A tenderness that is not just about having sex and filling that need of a man.  But someone who’s got my back.  Someone who I can trust and hand my heart over to again.

There are other points, but these seem to be the main ones.  And we just keep going round-and-round with these.

It does upset me when I have brought up (at other times too) that I have been hurt from the past behaviors and actions due to drinking and JD thinks I’m over reacting.  And that our marriage has not been “that bad” for me to have such resentments.  You know….how quickly an alcoholic forgets about the past actions and what they are doing to everyone around them.

But that all aside.  Dr. Hanson – again – said we need to start off with planning time together.  And yes – planning intimate times together.  And JD is (for the time being) going to have to get over the feeling that in doing this – it’s forced.  He mentioned that this is a start and things will not always be this way.  But just a place to begin.


CS 9/7/10

Our session went pretty good today.  After coming off of some pretty tough things – up is not too far!

We just reiterated our conversation from the night before.  And the following things Dr. Hanson gave as homework/assignments:

  1.  He gave us a sheet to talk over with one another.  We did also answer the questions during the session.
  2. Discuss ways to make time for one another.  The intimacy thing again!
  3. Identify “The Beast”  We did decide to call it that – because it is so fitting!  The Beast is anything that has to do with the drinking and addiction.  We are supposed to separate it from the individual.  This being JD.  And put an entire entity to it.  Naming it, identifying it, recognizing it, breaking it down.  This way we can say, “I don’t want The Beast to ruin our weekend, don’t let it happen.”

We also discussed the path for no drinking and he needs to get help.  JD said he was going, and will continue to go to AA meetings.


Counseling session 8/31

I called it right!  We didn’t work on the intimacy issue, or the “plan” to get some much-needed things in order.  Which includes the time needed to achieve intimacy.

The session began, and lasted for quite some time, in anger, frustration, and arguing. 

Dr. Hanson began by asking if we discussed or worked on anything regarding our last session?  The response was “no”!  And I sat in silence until JD could answer this.  Which he began in a very sarcastic tone of “I suppose it’s going to all be blamed on my drinking, and isn’t that so convenient to just blame me and my drinking”!

I replayed the past week.  Asking him how I should respond in a different way to his brother coming into town last Tues. and you drank to the point of throwing up, which I know you’ll say you made yourself because your stomach hurt.  The next day was your birthday, and you had 3 beers in a matter of 45 minutes, before we left for the restaurant.  And having 3 more mixed drinks at the restaurant.  No, you didn’t drink the next day.  However on Friday, when I was shopping till late into the evening with our daughter.  You stayed home with the 2 boys, and drank.  Oh, later you said you had such a stressful conversation with you parents regarding your sister, how could anyone not drink.  I knew you had been drinking when I talked with you on the phone.  You were home with the boys, why did you have to drink?  Now, you tell me how I’m suppose to react and feel?  If it’s not the actual act of drinking, it’s your hangover the next days that create such tension, and the fact that the elephant is back in the room that we have to just keep walking around that creates a tense atmosphere around our house.

JD felt very cornered and didn’t hesitate to state this.  Dr. Hanson had many things to say, and asked JD if he didn’t wish to discuss this anymore.  JD said, “no, I don’t really want to discuss this anymore”.  Dr. Hanson said then there really isn’t a point in continuing with this session because this is a problem that we both have stated is an issue in our life, marriage and family.

Without going into all the details of our session.  It did continue, we did discuss it, and it did end with the following:

  • to accomplish a plan for intimacy time together
  • to define the problem of alcohol as being an outside entity.  Meaning: call it something, such as “The Beast” and when referring to it in our marriage, refer to it that way.  When addressing it, address it as a separate entity.  i.e. if I would say, “I don’t want The Beast back, so please don’t drink.”
  • to define what drinking looks like in our home.  Is it going to be permitted, or not?  If so, how much, how often, and if I can say anything about it if I’m not comfortable.

Wow, this I’m not liking!  I have done this in the past, and I know how it goes.  And I’m not willing to put myself in this situation.  Am I willing to try? Yes, but this is going to require an act of God.

Now, that was yesterday.

Last night……JD came home later in the evening.  After his fantasy football draft.  Ate dinner and didn’t feel good at all.  So he went to bed at 9pm.  Ended up sleeping on the couch, which is not unusual.

I woke this morning, took our daughter to classes, came home by 9:30 am, he was still sleeping on the couch.  At 10am, said he was going to build some Lego’s with his son and ended up going downstairs to crawl into bed.  Said he wasn’t feeling good!  It’s now almost 11am, and he’s still there!

Helllooooooo!  How many times do I have to point out what happens – you know – THE CYCLE!!!!!

This is a direct correlation to what happens after he’s been drinking consistently, in abundance and then decides to stop for any amount of time.  He becomes depressed and experiences flu-like symptoms.  I know he’s not going to acknowledge this as being the case.  But it’s textbook symptoms and cycles.

So……..here I am – ANGRY and feeling the rage come over me.

I know I need wisdom:

Proverbs 15:1 – A gentle answer quiets anger, but a harsh one stirs it up.

So I will hold my tonge.  But I feel anger, and I don’t feel like dealing with this anymore!


Counseling session 8/24

This is the first time we walked into a session mad at one another.

I was upset with him because he, almost always, makes us late to anything that has a specific time requirement.  Why?  Because he works on his computer until almost 15 minutes before we have to “be” there, and then goes and takes a shower.  His response: I miscalculate time and think that I can do that one last thing, and usually it takes me longer than I think.  And my solution, which I have mentioned numerous times before: take a shower first, then work on your computer.

Why he was upset: our intimacy – lack of – non-existent – none!  This topic was the focus during our session.  Which I thought was good!  I felt as though we came away from the session having accomplished something.

Here are some of the conclusions of why intimacy doesn’t ever happen (Dr. Hanson had also stated these are the same issues all married couples, with children {especially with such a range of children} face):

  • a child-centered house (where the children dictate how the house/home is run)
  • getting to bed too late (due to the kids getting into bed between 10-11pm, and most of the time not falling asleep until midnight)
  • complete exhaustion
  • drinking
  • lack of connection to one another
  • no time in our lives to get all the other “things” done
  • physically fit
  • not feeling attractive

Solution:

  • PLAN for your time together.  Yes – make a date for sex!  That way things fall into place the way they should.  Mentally prepared as well.  Stating this is just a start.  This will most likely not be the way intimacy will always happen in the future.  But a life adjustment needs to take place.  And this would be the first step.

This was supposed to be our “assignment” for the week.  To discuss how this would take place.  Talk about what it would take and implement it.

It’s now Saturday.  Our appointment was last Tuesday.  And as of today – nothing has been discussed!  Instead, he’s called upon me at midnight last Thursday.  Has drank every evening, other than Thursday evening.  This does not provide a great platform for discussion.  So we have done nothing to discuss, plan or implement this issue!

And I don’t really see it happening before our next session because we (I) have the drinking issue dominating my thoughts, feelings and attitudes at this point.  I just don’t feel like talking about being intimate with him.  And I certainly don’t want to be intimate with him right now.

I’m angry because JD:

  • has been drinking every day (excluding 1 day) since our last counseling session.  And drinking in excess!
  • has not taken these issues which were discussed in the last meeting seriously.  It’s all about him!  And he becomes angry at me for the lack of sex we have.  But takes no responsibility for it!
  • has resorted back to his old patterns – I feel as though we have taken huge steps backwards.
  • while I was out with our daughter last night, he stayed home with MJ and Scott and was drinking.  Drinking too much as well.  Why did he even have to drink while spending time with his children?  Why?

I guess our next session with Dr. Hanson has already been dictated!